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Another one of those 200 year events that\'s become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html

Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/

CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.
 
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

Another one of those 200 year events that\'s become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html

Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/

Historical records are online. Average temp in PR has risen about 1F
since 1950, which could be blamed on instrumentation changes.

The hottest 5-year period seems to be 1950-1955.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstatesummaries.ncics.org%2Fimg%2Ffigure%2Fpr-figure-2.png&tbnid=zL8vPqnfscr6lM&vet=12ahUKEwiRz9yw2rH_AhU-N0QIHXN0AKkQMygDegUIARDDAQ..i&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstatesummaries.ncics.org%2Fchapter%2Fpr%2F&docid=Ea-pdDu3_9x9sM&w=4096&h=4095&q=puerto%20rico%20temperature%20history&ved=2ahUKEwiRz9yw2rH_AhU-N0QIHXN0AKkQMygDegUIARDDAQ

Rainfall is erratic year-to-year everywhere, so if you search the
world you can find something alarming, if that\'s what you enjoy.

There are plenty of \"places\" on earth so there will be lots of
200-year events to be found.
 
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 1:52:15 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

Another one of those 200 year events that\'s become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html

Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/
Historical records are online. Average temp in PR has risen about 1F
since 1950, which could be blamed on instrumentation changes.

The hottest 5-year period seems to be 1950-1955.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstatesummaries.ncics..org%2Fimg%2Ffigure%2Fpr-figure-2.png&tbnid=zL8vPqnfscr6lM&vet=12ahUKEwiRz9yw2rH_AhU-N0QIHXN0AKkQMygDegUIARDDAQ..i&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstatesummaries.ncics.org%2Fchapter%2Fpr%2F&docid=Ea-pdDu3_9x9sM&w=4096&h=4095&q=puerto%20rico%20temperature%20history&ved=2ahUKEwiRz9yw2rH_AhU-N0QIHXN0AKkQMygDegUIARDDAQ

Rainfall is erratic year-to-year everywhere, so if you search the
world you can find something alarming, if that\'s what you enjoy.

There are plenty of \"places\" on earth so there will be lots of
200-year events to be found.

You make it sound like it\'s a localized place. Southeast Asia is a huge expanse of area. A few of those island/ archipelago nations have populations over a hundred million people. The one commonality seems to be they\'re surrounded by hot tub warm oceans. The hot tub warm oceans are causing a new warmer equilibrium in surface atmospheric temperatures to continue to accept heat.
 
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

Another one of those 200 year events that\'s become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html

Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/

CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.

Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don\'t think the
French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
washer in the garage? It\'s easy to see how the massive increase in
demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
It\'s nothing to do with \"climate change\" and all that BS. The last
thing we need is more BS.
 
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 11:09:43 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 1:52:15?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

Another one of those 200 year events that\'s become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html

Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/
Historical records are online. Average temp in PR has risen about 1F
since 1950, which could be blamed on instrumentation changes.

The hottest 5-year period seems to be 1950-1955.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstatesummaries.ncics.org%2Fimg%2Ffigure%2Fpr-figure-2.png&tbnid=zL8vPqnfscr6lM&vet=12ahUKEwiRz9yw2rH_AhU-N0QIHXN0AKkQMygDegUIARDDAQ..i&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstatesummaries.ncics.org%2Fchapter%2Fpr%2F&docid=Ea-pdDu3_9x9sM&w=4096&h=4095&q=puerto%20rico%20temperature%20history&ved=2ahUKEwiRz9yw2rH_AhU-N0QIHXN0AKkQMygDegUIARDDAQ

Rainfall is erratic year-to-year everywhere, so if you search the
world you can find something alarming, if that\'s what you enjoy.

There are plenty of \"places\" on earth so there will be lots of
200-year events to be found.


You make it sound like it\'s a localized place. Southeast Asia is a huge expanse of area. A few of those island/ archipelago nations have populations over a hundred million people. The one commonality seems to be they\'re surrounded by hot tub warm oceans. The hot tub warm oceans are causing a new warmer equilibrium in surface atmospheric temperatures to continue to accept heat.

Which mneans we\'ll all die?
 
On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 19:38:51 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

Another one of those 200 year events that\'s become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html

Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/

CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.

Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don\'t think the
French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
washer in the garage? It\'s easy to see how the massive increase in
demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
It\'s nothing to do with \"climate change\" and all that BS. The last
thing we need is more BS.

Households use about 7% of the water in California. The big slurp is
agriculture, growing cash crops like almonds and cotton and rice in
what is officially a desert.

The big household use is in pools and lawns. Nobody needs either. We
shower daily and use about 60 gallons a day. There are people not far
from here who use 1000.
 
On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 16:21:16 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 19:38:51 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com
wrote:

On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

Another one of those 200 year events that\'s become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html

Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/

CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.

Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don\'t think the
French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
washer in the garage? It\'s easy to see how the massive increase in
demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
It\'s nothing to do with \"climate change\" and all that BS. The last
thing we need is more BS.

Households use about 7% of the water in California. The big slurp is
agriculture, growing cash crops like almonds and cotton and rice in
what is officially a desert.

The big household use is in pools and lawns. Nobody needs either. We
shower daily and use about 60 gallons a day. There are people not far
from here who use 1000.

Harry and Meghan?
 
On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 08:55:45 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 16:21:16 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 19:38:51 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com
wrote:

On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

Another one of those 200 year events that\'s become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html

Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/

CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.

Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don\'t think the
French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
washer in the garage? It\'s easy to see how the massive increase in
demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
It\'s nothing to do with \"climate change\" and all that BS. The last
thing we need is more BS.

Households use about 7% of the water in California. The big slurp is
agriculture, growing cash crops like almonds and cotton and rice in
what is officially a desert.

The big household use is in pools and lawns. Nobody needs either. We
shower daily and use about 60 gallons a day. There are people not far
from here who use 1000.

Harry and Meghan?

Beverly Hills 90201 has 32 customers who each use over 2.8 million
gallons per year. One home is close to 12 million.

The kgal/day types are in the burbs of the Bay Area, mostly people
with giant lawns.

https://revealnews.org/article/the-wet-prince-of-bel-air-who-is-californias-biggest-water-guzzler/

San Francisco has zero mega-users. We have very few pools or lawns.

But the big slurp is still agriculture, which is depleting ground
water at unsustainable rates. It will be self-limiting after the water
table and the land have sunk enough, and the soil is salty enough to
kill crops.

Most of the crisies blamed on Climate Change are in fact man-made,
plain bad policy and engineering.

Fremont is dreadful. I used to work there.
 
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:33:49 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

Beverly Hills 90201 has 32 customers who each use over 2.8 million
gallons per year. One home is close to 12 million.

The kgal/day types are in the burbs of the Bay Area, mostly people
with giant lawns.

https://revealnews.org/article/the-wet-prince-of-bel-air-who-is-californias-biggest-water-guzzler/

If the water goes into plants, it gets evaporated, prevailing winds take the water
vapor eastward, and it falls on land as rain or snow to be renewed freshwater supply.

> San Francisco has zero mega-users. We have very few pools or lawns.

So, it\'s just a lot of shower stalls and toilets? That \'used\' water goes through
treatment, and dumped into the ocean; it doesn\'t much affect the evaporation
there, so offers little return to the continent. Pools and lawns
are minor \'consumers\' because their net effect is redistribution downwind,
not removal to the ocean.

But the big slurp is still agriculture, which is depleting ground
water at unsustainable rates. It will be self-limiting after the water
table and the land have sunk enough, and the soil is salty enough to
kill crops.

Most of the crisies blamed on Climate Change are in fact man-made,
plain bad policy and engineering.

Of course, climate change is also man-made, and the causations are bad policies
which JL heartily supports.
 
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:33:49 PM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 08 Jun 2023 08:55:45 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 16:21:16 -0700, John Larkin <jla...@highlandSNIPMEtechnology.com> wrote:
On Wed, 07 Jun 2023 19:38:51 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

> Most of the crises blamed on Climate Change are in fact man-made, plain bad policy and engineering.

Obviously. Anthropogenic global warming is man made. That\'s what the name means.

Keeping on burning fossil carbon for fuel after we\'d worked out that this causes global warming was plain bad policy and lazy engineering.

We\'ve now worked out how to get the energy we need without burning fossil carbon, and it\'s now proved to supply the energy more cheaply than you can get it by burning fossil carbon.

It\'s taken us longer than it should have done to get to this point and the fossil carbon extraction industry has made a lot more money than they should have done in consequence.
They spent some of it on crap propaganda aimed at gullible twits like John Larkin, who still doesn\'t seem to realise that he\'s been gulled.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 07:45:17 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:33:49?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

Beverly Hills 90201 has 32 customers who each use over 2.8 million
gallons per year. One home is close to 12 million.

The kgal/day types are in the burbs of the Bay Area, mostly people
with giant lawns.

https://revealnews.org/article/the-wet-prince-of-bel-air-who-is-californias-biggest-water-guzzler/

If the water goes into plants, it gets evaporated, prevailing winds take the water
vapor eastward, and it falls on land as rain or snow to be renewed freshwater supply.

But not in California.

San Francisco has zero mega-users. We have very few pools or lawns.

So, it\'s just a lot of shower stalls and toilets?

Dishwashers and laundries too. And a lot of gardening, fortunately
mostly small gardens.

My neighbor across the street does have a small farm.


That \'used\' water goes through
treatment, and dumped into the ocean; it doesn\'t much affect the evaporation
there, so offers little return to the continent. Pools and lawns
are minor \'consumers\' because their net effect is redistribution downwind,
not removal to the ocean.

But the big slurp is still agriculture, which is depleting ground
water at unsustainable rates. It will be self-limiting after the water
table and the land have sunk enough, and the soil is salty enough to
kill crops.

Most of the crisies blamed on Climate Change are in fact man-made,
plain bad policy and engineering.

Of course, climate change is also man-made,

That\'s one theory.

and the causations are bad policies
which JL heartily supports.

I like heat in my house. It\'s 61F outside right now.
 
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:58:48 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 07:45:17 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:33:49?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

Most of the crisies blamed on Climate Change are in fact man-made,
plain bad policy and engineering.

Of course, climate change is also man-made,

That\'s one theory.

Yeah; it\'s the credible one.

and the causations are bad policies
which JL heartily supports.

I like heat in my house. It\'s 61F outside right now.

And that\'s relevant because one cannot make clothing choices?
 
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 11:01:17 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 11:58:48?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 07:45:17 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:33:49?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

Most of the crisies blamed on Climate Change are in fact man-made,
plain bad policy and engineering.

Of course, climate change is also man-made,

That\'s one theory.

Yeah; it\'s the credible one.

and the causations are bad policies
which JL heartily supports.

I like heat in my house. It\'s 61F outside right now.

And that\'s relevant because one cannot make clothing choices?

I suppose I could make wife choices, but I like the one I have.
 
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
Another one of those 200 year events that\'s become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html

Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/

CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.
Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don\'t think the
French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
washer in the garage? It\'s easy to see how the massive increase in
demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
It\'s nothing to do with \"climate change\" and all that BS. The last
thing we need is more BS.

You can use a product like this. It\'s almost as good as bathing, the cloth is saturated with antiseptic and other cleansers.

https://homecare.stryker.com/sage-essential-bath-cloths-7800-7803
 
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
Another one of those 200 year events that\'s become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html

Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/

CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.
Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don\'t think the
French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
washer in the garage? It\'s easy to see how the massive increase in
demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
It\'s nothing to do with \"climate change\" and all that BS. The last
thing we need is more BS.

You can use a product like this. It\'s almost as good as bathing, the cloth is saturated with antiseptic and other cleansers.

https://homecare.stryker.com/sage-essential-bath-cloths-7800-7803

I get my best ideas standing in the shower with hot water pouring on
my head. I don\'t think rubbing with a chemical rag would have the same
effect.
 
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 1:58:48 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 07:45:17 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 9:33:49?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

<snip>

Most of the crisies blamed on Climate Change are in fact man-made,
plain bad policy and engineering.

Of course, climate change is also man-made,

That\'s one theory.

It\'s a theory that is supported by a lot of evidence, none of which John Larkin seems to be able to follow.
The contradictory \"evidence\" - which he does seem to trust - comes down to the fact that the fossil carbon extraction industry will end up with a much smaller turnover if it is accepted as being likely to be true.

and the causations are bad policies.

which JL heartily supports.

I like heat in my house. It\'s 61F outside right now.

So heat it with a heat pump driven by electric power derived from renewable sources, as I do. It\'s called reverse cycle air-conditioning. At the moment only about 19% of the electricity consumed in NSW comes from renewable sources, but this is being ramped up rapidly, as they are the cheapest suppliers around.

We will need more grid storage than we\'ve currently got if we are to get to 100% but that is being worked on too.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
Another one of those 200 year events that\'s become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html

Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/

CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.
Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don\'t think the
French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
washer in the garage? It\'s easy to see how the massive increase in
demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
It\'s nothing to do with \"climate change\" and all that BS. The last
thing we need is more BS.

You can use a product like this. It\'s almost as good as bathing, the cloth is saturated with antiseptic and other cleansers.

https://homecare.stryker.com/sage-essential-bath-cloths-7800-7803

I\'d rather something were done about overpopulation.
 
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 5:00:38 PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

> I\'d rather something were done about overpopulation.

Me too. I\'ve got a little list. Of course you are on that list, along with a a and Flyguy.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Fri, 09 Jun 2023 08:00:30 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
Another one of those 200 year events that\'s become annual, record setting heat in southeast Asia.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/asia/southeast-asia-heat-wave-humidity-climate-intl-hnk-dst-scn-dg/index.html

Insufferable heat in Puerto Rico is making people flee.

https://insideclimatenews.org/news/06062023/todays-climate-puerto-rico-heat/

CO2 may be good for plants, but drought definitely is not. Europe has a problem.
Too many people taking too many showers is one reason. Many of us here
are old enough to remember when we had to have stand-up washes in tin
bathtubs using just a few inches of water, typically boiled from a
kettle. For the vast majority of people, this weekly ritual was the
extent of their personal hygiene regime. IIRC, I don\'t think the
French even bothered at all. Today however, the population has
exploded and everyone wants to take a shower every day and sometimes
twice a day. Even those folks in prison expect that much! And who
wants to use a hosepipe to wash the driveway and car with a pressure
washer in the garage? It\'s easy to see how the massive increase in
demand and consumption has brought about water shortages in the West.
It\'s nothing to do with \"climate change\" and all that BS. The last
thing we need is more BS.

You can use a product like this. It\'s almost as good as bathing, the cloth is saturated with antiseptic and other cleansers.

https://homecare.stryker.com/sage-essential-bath-cloths-7800-7803

I\'d rather something were done about overpopulation.

Do your part: don\'t make babies.
 
On Friday, June 9, 2023 at 10:56:19 PM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 09 Jun 2023 08:00:30 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jun 2023 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:39:00?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

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I\'d rather something were done about overpopulation.

Do your part: don\'t make babies.

The US insistence that every nut-case can keep several guns at home has a more immediate effect. Statistically speaking, they mostly kill themselves, and they don\'t kill enough to make a real difference, but it does make a small but perceptible dent in the US population. Opioids help even more.

The US life expectancy is currently declining, which is surprising in an advanced industrial country.

Educating women does reduce the birth rate, and in place where they do it properly it is now mos;ty well below replacement level. US primary and secondary education doesn\'t seem to be as effective. John Larkin\'s tertiary education doesn\'t seem to have been up to much either - but that might just be Tulane.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 

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